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  1. Given the UK wants to be a leader in getting to "net zero" carbon emissions (whatever that really means), they have pulled the subsidy for EVs... Though, I know more and more people who drive EVs and they love them.. .they are darned fast, as well.. I drive 170 miles at least two times a week.. I don't want to be faffing about for 1/2 hour at servos. for these drives, but apparently there is a next gen charging system and batteries coming in that make charging a bit faster - and if I can get a 250m+ range, I will go for one (Why 250m+? Because you can be stuck in traffic for a darned long time in the UK).
  2. We had that a lot in the UK, too.. .Works being done all over the place for trafiic "calming" or whatever; even in areas that hadn't seen an accident for years. I recall wondering if I was being too cycnical in thinking of the c. 80p/litre tax was the, pardon the pun, driving force for this - after all the more fuel you burn doing nothing, the more the taxman takes. Sure enough, it came to light some time after, the councils were offered kick backs to slow everyone down - not for safety - but because of the tax take. I know the current Premier is on a massive infrastructure build program and doesn't have the same intention (after all, the taxes go to the Federal government)... But.. you never know!
  3. Except that, in the event that a person is still married, if they are defacto, it is virutally the same as being married under the Family Law Act (1975 - from memory)... My first serious LT girlfriend, thankfully didn't know that.. My second did and it cost me a bomb.. Back to sex.. OK - I am going to be honest (I hope SWMBO doesn't look here). Honest.. I have never understool the (much) fairer sex... And while I have more than a fair share of times, lined up 5 metres out directly in front, have hit the side of the boot ad it has gone out of bounds on the full... In fact, if I told you all how I ended up in a 20+ year relationship, you would not have believed it lasted that long... Here are a couple of examples (all after serious Long Term (LT) 2 - fiancee; and before LT3: Client in an Eastern European country provides translators so we can communciate with the client.. I am there for 2 weeks and anouther one of our consulants comes out. After a day, he asks me have I bonked a particular translator because she obviously has the hots for me. I am totally perplexed - what on eaarth has given hom that idea. No I never bonker her.. never ever saw the signs,.. though about 2 weeks before I finsihed the engagement, she made it quite clear she wanted some rompy pompy; never happened as I started going out with SWMBO. Prior to that, I am on a client engagement in Philadelphia (ship hole). Towards the end of he engagement, a female clioent staff member asks why I never resppnded to her advances. What advances? I ask.. Her response is, and I quote. "Dude.. you don't understand women". The problem for me is that I see friendly gestures as just that.. Prior to the above, with LT2, who I was engaged to, I went to a family do of hers.. Her brother had a new girlfriend and I was at the time LT2's relatively new boyfriend. We were at Fergusson's winery in the Yarra Valley (long time defunct now), and it happened to be that I was sat next to brother's girlfriend. As theextended family basically ignored us, we struck up a converstation about trivial things and joked betwen us laughing. I caught that LT2's brother was less than impressed and as I was driving LT2 to her house, she berated me for flirtng with her brother's girlfriend in front of her family. My response was. WTF; a) she was about as attractive to me as a cabim fire breaking out on late finals and b) why is it that people think that just because you have a laugh with th eopposite sec (or same sex if you are that way inclined), it means you want to bed them...
  4. Road laws here are strict liability as well.. .however, police exercise a lot of discretion in enforcing them. It reminds me of a little event. In London, which is arguably far more busy on the roads than in Melbourne, it is impossible to walk the city without jaywalking as a) there are many intersections that are very busy but don't have the walk/don't walk signals on the traffic lights; b) when it is puring down with rain in the cosld of winter, no one is waiting for the walk sign.. All this despite drivers turnign left or right at these intersections not waiting for pedestrians crossing the roads, as the law requires. In 2004, I am working back in Melbourne and I go out of the office at lunch time to run an errand in a hurry. I wait for a coupel of seconds to cross Collins Street at the Collins Street/Exhibition Street intersection and decide, F! it.. I am not waiting for the walk sign (London habit kicked in) and proceed to jaywalk. A young policeman under supervsion (there were a few around and still with those white forewarm things they occasionally wears interrupts my walk and asks if I realised i was jaywalking. I said I did and he reminded me that is extrememly unsafe to jaywalk. Having realised he is either just out of the cadet college or this is paart of his cadet training, I took it easy on him. I asked hom to look around the intersection - and got him to conform it is wide and has good visibility, Then I asked him to look down Exhibition street towards Flinders street where car paring is allowed in the moddle of the street; perpendicular to the flow of traffic... and tell me from a pedestrian perspective if I crossed the road, would I have as good visibility as I have at the intersection. He conceded visibility would not be as good and recoiled slightly as he worked out what I was going to say... which was, if I crossed at roughly half way betweern Collins Steet and the next street (think it is little COllins, bit could be Flinders Lane), I would be perfectly legal but a lot less safe as I don't have as good visibility and the drivers going along Exhibition street also don't. To his credit, he saw the folly of the application of the law and his supervisor (I never use superior as I often find the youger are far more superior than my generation) stepped in and whispered something to him.. after which the young fella said, something along the lines of "well, regardless, it is unsafe to Jaywalk and it is against the law... So please refrain from doing it in the future".. or some such stuff.. What I liked was that he wasn't trying to dogmatically defend what he was taught/trained but was prepared to listen.
  5. The approach in the UK to road safety and speeding is quite different. It is not seens as the revenue raiser it is in Australia (or at least Victoria). For example, there are warning signs all over the place about speed cameras and fixed spped cameras are very conscpicuous - free standing on a pole, large-ish box and painted yellow - and there are calibration lines on the road as well. There are mobile cameras about but they are in large white vans and have the speed camera logo painted/stuck on them. They are harder to see though. I know people here complain it has got worse, and there are some trouble spots where if you are caught doing over the limit expect to pay (£120 fine last time I did, with a £60 discount if you pay it within 28 days - or some such thing. I just checked and it has gone up to £100. However, I can honestly say, I have passed many speeding vans doing well over the limit (c. 80mph) on a dual carriage A road (so 70mph limit) and not much traffic or other obvious dangers and have not had the fine in the mail. I once did 34mph in a 30 zone through a village is notorious with a blind spot. I couldn't argue it, but had the option to pay the same to attend a speed awareness course rather than cop the points and a road traffic conviction to delcare on the insurance. It was a good course and was basically a reminder of all the safety things we learned when we did our learners and licence. I have been radar gunned doing at least 96mph (not kph) on the M4.. Limit is also 70. It was about 7am Christmas morning and apart from me and the copper on a mound on the side of the motorway (3 lanes each way at the time), there was no one else. I thought I am done (if I was in Victoria, I would have probably made the news. Never heard a thing. Another time, doing about 90 one weekday evening on an A road between Gloucester and the M4, I saw a motorcycle in the distance.. I thought "Nah.. no way that's a policeman".. but as I overtook it, the blue letters of POLICE were emblazoned on the side of what I recall was a ST Pan, but could have been a BM'er... I immediately took my foot off the accelerator and when he caught me up he simply waved me on. I figured it was to get me in his camera or something, but thought, hey... I did the crime... So I planted the foot and he didn't come after me, I have been pulled over for minor breaches, but when the traffic and conditions were such that it was a hell of a lot more risky (of not to life) than the above. They always speak as if to remind and educate about why the law is there. In one case, I mentioned one of the above infractions and asked why they were OK with that, but not a, what I thought was skillful change of lane in realtively heavy conditions with lots of road spray.. His response - motorway and dual lane A roads are the safest things to do in driving (in the UK)... and that they are more concerned when someone is creating a real hazard.. As for all the other carp we spoke of above, they would pee themselves laughing at the idea. ANyone caught on a mobile phone (not hands free) can expect to be beaten up, though. On the whole, they seem more about getting people moving safely rather than a dogmatic and adversarial approach the Aussie (well Victorian) police have (or had).. Having said that, being honest when I was pulled up for minor offences seemed to work, even with the "notorious" Traffic Operations Group of the Vic Police.. Also, it is not (yet) seen as a revenue raiser...
  6. WHat I do know is the older you get beyind a certain age, the less you get... Unless I keep forgetting... What are we talking about?
  7. DIdi I read this post right? It is illegal to leave your car unlocked/unsecured? FFS ! I get it; it is to stop juvenile delinquents from nicking it and going for a joyride, but ship a brick... How about getting back to some decent communitiy values and thrashing them to an inch of their lives if they get caught... That'll learn 'em Of course, I jest about thrashing them... just throwing them in boiling oils shoudl do it 😉
  8. On another crazy law topic, my brother and sister in law were visiting last week and said there is a law in QLD (they thought) where one was required to have both hands on the steering wheel while driving.. Is that true? Darned hard to change gears if that's the case...
  9. Gawwd.. This has turned into a sh!tty thread...
  10. WIth EInstein's brain, even he gave up trying to understand women and turned to explaining the universe, which he did a darned good job of.. so what hope have we got of even trying to figure them out 😉 FIrst long term, serious girlfriend... Hated flying.. Would not even get near a plane (inc airliners).. OK... there are other attributes, mainly physical which kept an unusually tolerant young male interested... But, alas, 'twas not to be.. Second long termer - actually got to the engaged bit. At first, she was all "Oh, yeah.. I like flying... Camping, too." Well, it didn't take too long to realise she was certainly not into flying. Our first flight.. sitting side by side, looking at each other longingly while on the tarmac wating for the good to go from ATC, and the minute we started the taxy for the runway, her face lost all colour and the sweat from her palm soaked the cloth armrest - I kid you not, the armrest was like a saturated sponge and she must have lost about 5lbs (she was already skinny). Of course, we were in the back of an airliner and the first movement was a pushback... but you get my drift.. A few years later, while getting ready for a camping trip in the Otway Ranges (my No. 2 spot for retirement, which given the way Australia is drying up, is rapidly becoming my number one spot), she says, "Do you mind if we book a motel for this trip?" Understanding that we did a lot of camping and 4x4-ing and flying took a back seat (after all, compromise is an important part of a relationship), I was agreeable.. Actually, we had a great long weekend, and ate at Chris's Restaurant (which is now Chris's Beacon Point Restuarant).. where I had lobster. Well, to be honest, that was not the best part of the weekend and the Age Epicurean writer who gave it a great write up was a numpty. Anyway, I digress,.. On the Sunday night, in the Motel Marengo or some such name, she says to me, and I quote... "I sort of lied to you.. I also hate camping.. I just said I like flying and camping to go out with you.." OK.. she was not exactly a princess... quite opposite... But seriously... whu lie and carry it for 5 years???? Well, not too long after that, the breakup occirred, but I will only tell in a pub.. because it is so bizarre, I am still wondering if they slipped me some form of narcotic. LT 3 and partner now for 23 years (I have actually never been married).. Was honest and upfront - try and get her into a light aircraft and with the clamping force of a salty, she will make sure my voice will only be able to be heard by dogs. I like that - absolutely up front.. Yes, she is sometimes hard work.. but so am I... But finally, I met a woman who spoke her mind rather than played silly mind games... We have had some thick and thin times... And I have to admit, there is the odd occasion where I think to myself "what the gubbins am I doing with this woman"... But she is such a straight shooter, I don't have to struggle to understand where I sit with her and that is worth its weight t in gold... or hens teeth.. I still don't understand her, of course...
  11. There is no easy answer - unchecked, our early cognitive development will be the formation of our thoughts, actions and reactions for the rest of our lives. However, there are ways to reform the cognitive functions of the brain - over time - sometimes months - sometimes years and sometimes never. But, your example of the German camp guard is reflective of the issue. I studied Aussie History at HSC and the treatment of German born and first gen Aussie Citizens in WWI (and II) was deplorable. However, it was, in a way, understandable borne by a fear that we look at today and concede was baseless. I put it to you, that, despite the events being perpetrated in the name of the quran, the fear we hold today about Muslims in general is - baseless. Think about it, Germans about 12,000 miles away - baddies wreaking untold trouble on our motherland (to put it in 1914 context); today a bunch of maddened bloodthirsty mongrels wreaking havoc on.. largely themselves... but because the world is much closer today, they can have a crack at those who interfere with their battles as well.. Of the problems facing Bouke street lately, only one of the madmen were proclaiming to be acting on behalf of Allah, and he was found not to have any connection to ISIS or others, and was mentally ill. I think it was the same for the Sydney cafe shooter as well - no actual connection to ISIS. ISIS are "cleverly" calling on lone wolves to react, in other words - we don't know who you are - we know you want to do some damage - do it in our name to give it some legitimacy... Without having reasd the quran, I am going to take it on good faith (how ironic) that it allows Jihad when the religion is threatened or some such condition. That does not mean unlilateral violence is accepted. I also take the point that there couls be stronger and absolute condemnation of Muslims who perpetrate such violent acts from their own community; although I was listening to a BBC radio program where a senior cleric was absolute and resolute in his condemnation. But the average Muslim in the street is no more to fear than the average Aussie. I think the process has to start with integration - that is not forcing people to abandon their religious expressions - and certainly not putting upunnecessary barriers that the citizenship test is (it is used to exclude rather than educate). It is about educating them about our way of life; out values and our tolerance and how they can still have their religious freedoms yet be Australian at the same time. It is also about us being educated about their values, what they have come from and how we can help them integrate. I "work" for a practising Muslim - I am genuine in saying this - he is one of the nicer people I have ever met - he doesn't have a racist or prejudicial bone in his body. In fact, if he didn't let us know he as practicing, we would never even know. At the end of the day, they have different religious beliefs - some are fanatical - but there are still religious loonies in the US who kill in the name of Christianity. At the end of the day - the non fanatical want the same as we all do.. peace, to smile, give their kids the best they can, health, etc, etc.. If we reject those that have gone, then the hatred will fester and spread and come back to bite us. At least if we bring them back, we have a chance of correcting it, but at the very least control it and for those people and their offspring - at least prevent an attack to Aussies I forgot to mention, there is absolute support in brining them back and trying them for any crimes and holding them accountable. IN Shamimia's case, there isn't certainty there is anything she can be charged with.. but at least you can bring them back to face a trial IF they have actually broken laws (the UK passed a law to make it an offence to join a foreigh terrorist organisation after she left - and as far as I know, it was not a retrospective law - of course, there is the possibility of treason, but as she didn't divulge any state secrets nor threatend or attack the country - nor did ISIS directly - then even that is a tough case to get through).
  12. What this has to do with the Sunshine state, I am not sure.. But that is what is good about these forums - the conversations bends and melds with the current issues... Anyway, I digress from the thread drift.. We have the same issue here in ol' blightly.. Shamima Begum being the most high profile case.. A 16 year old radicalised and married, I think one of hte more prevalent ISIS characters who was a Dutchman that converted to Islam... There was an interview that was broadcast where she was virtually emotionless and apprently unprentant. Of course, many people cited this as non sorrow, etc. But, I work with an ex mental health nurse who said she showed the typcal signs of shock and PTSD. In anycase, Sajid David illegally withdrew her British citizenship. based on the fact her fatehr is Bangladeshi and she can, in theory, apply for Banglaedeshi citizienship. As it turns out, the case is being appealed... As she is now technically stateless. I take the points that she "wilfully" fled to Syria at 16.. However, she had suffered a maternal death and was alledgedly suffering metnal health issues as a result. She became radicalised before she went over. Let's not forget.. she was 16 at the time.. her frontal cortex was hardly properly developed to comprehend the gravity of what she had done - and she was grieving and under a mental health issue - and found solace in the wrong crowd. I do not equate what she did to free will. And I bet most of the young girls that went out there, possibly living suppressed if not oppressed lives had not had similar issues. The other point to think about is... Yes, what they did was monstrous.. But, if they are our citizens, like it or not, they are a product of our country - and all of its foibles. And, they are our responsibility. As the FInancial Times (hardly a bleeding heart publication) put it.. todays orphans of ISIS are tomorrows enemies of us. If we bring them back, we can keep an eye on them and rehabilitate and maybe prevent further bloodshed. I understand for Australia, which has a fraction of the radical based issues that the UK has, probably doesn't have as extensive a deradcialisation program has here. But if they are under our control, we can affect the outcome - leave them there and they will likely develop a hatred far deeper than a non-citizen. I can see the argument as to why we should leave the to "rot".. but only their mindset rots.. and we become the target of that mindset.
  13. I have to admit, except for their position on climate change, I have stereotypically thought og the greens as Corbyn's commie army. But your post prompted me to actually take a look at what they say... You can find their immigration and refugee policy here: https://greens.org.au/policies/immigration-and-refugeeshttps://greens.org.au/policies/immigration-and-refugees It is mainly about Australia should meet its obligations under the Refugees convention, treat asylumseekers and refugees humanely and stop the deprevation of refugees. Given, over 'ere, deradicalisation programs have found that most of those radicalised are suffering clinical mental health condidtions and the rest are forgotten people looking for a home, it isn't beyond the realms of human intelligence to say, hey, if we are putting these PEOPLE in conditions where their mental health, which is probably already teetering on the edge, into the dangerous zone, then the press will have a field day about those "lone wolf terrorists" who wreak havoc on our communities. Yes, the Greens say we should prioritise family reunion and human causes over skills shortages.. I am not 100% OK with this, I admit.. Mainly because, do I really need to be reunited with my second cousin who now lives in Sydney and, to be honest, I occasionally think about? No, of course I don't. But if I am separated from my wife, and, admittedly, much more importanly, my children? FFS - think about it.. Yes - there are economic refugees.. But these are not refugees under the 1951 convention. But who cares if they are? They are more likely to contribute positively in the country - be more innovative because they know what it is like to be hungry, live under a tatty tarpaulin, and suffer watching their famly suffering... Let's put it this way - look at the BRW top 200 - how many have WASP surnames? Not too many.. Look at the people doing the less revered work (cleaners, poop-shovelers, etc).. Look at how we complain that Aussie dole bludgers are bleeding the system.. Yet the immigrants? Looking at the greens immigrant policy - it aint perfect, but it seems a darned sight better (in its ambitions) than the other mongrel-gutses.. Is Bob Brown still in politics? On the interest rates.. Yes 17% I was a young adult at the time.. And I was trying to get on the property ladder... But, did you check the world wide interest rates at the time.. Oh, and forget the fact that Keating was voted the worlds best treasurer as he staved off soverign bankruptcy.. and it was in line with the rest of the world - much like today.. Which proves economic forces are normally well beyond governmental control.
  14. Someone mentioned today it took 15 years to get in and it will take 15 years to get out
  15. On another topic, it looks like Russia is stepping in where the west has failed... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50058859 There was a better article in the FT, but it is behind a paywal and for some reason, it won't allow me to share it... Interesting that Russia sell Turkey the missile defence system and probably have the opportunity to sell more military hardware to them, but elect to protect their ally.. Unf the same can't be said for the west.. I know its complicated with Turkey being a NATO member, but you think the NATO club could exert some real pursuasion..
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