Electric Cars - the discussion continues.

facthunter

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Yes . I've ridden in a vehicle with seat heaters. Might be good in Canada, but I preferred them off. Electric vehicles will come They are ideal for stop start short trips etc There's nothing sillier than driving a couple of Kms to the station and leaving your car there all day in the sun and doing the same in the evening. That will wreck an internal combustion engine fast.. The price for a basic electric one will fall . and if you power it from solar, it will run out very cheap.. Maintenance should be minimal. Nev
 

spacesailor

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Solar-electric,
Solar boat was tried on the Sydney harbour, & ended using its diesel generator every (almost) day.
Something amiss on that one, and I haven't a clue.
spacesailor
 

Marty_d

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Bit of a difference between a big-ass ferry with 100 people on board pushing through water, and a car with 2 or 3 on board pushing through air.
 

facthunter

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Solar is Probably the one area that has advanced more than any other.( Price and efficiency) A Van should easily be able to be made into a hybrid. You motorise the rear wheels on a FWD and use the long tailshaft on a RWD. Nev
 
@octave - I thought you lived near Ararat for some reason. Ne'er mind... Geelong is almost as good ;-)

Had the better half test drive a new Nissan Leaf the other day - she was very skeptical about electric cars, preferring hybrids on those long drives she never goes on.. She is no petrol-head by any stretch of the imagination. However, after the test drive (with a smarmy salesman who was doing everything to dissuade us from doing business with them), she had changed her mind quick-smart. In fact, we are probably going to get one (What Car's EV of the year, I think) once we have most of the work on our new money pit sorted. She was amazed at how quick they accelerate, but that is by no means what swung her. The range is more than adequate for her requirements - the total lack of gears(she only drives automatics), the simplicty of operation and the ease/convenience of her never having to drive to a petrol station again won it.

Interestingly, I saw on BBC Points South West (regional news for where I live) that not one local government authority in the south west of England were utilising grants to install EV charging stations (presumably the real reason is the maintenance due to potential vandalism)... Not just the south west

On the heating system - that is me done. I have worked in North Dakota in their worst winter in 20-odd years (back in 1997), and I will still not warm to the idea of heated seats (pun almost intended).
 

spacesailor

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J A
The newish (2008) Pajero's have heated seats, My Daughter loves driving the Paj on those cold Sydney mornings
Beginning to suspect , that could be why, so much maintenance on her Subaroo. LoL
spacesailor
 

red750

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Deviating momentarily from electric cars to vintage cars, the Vintage Driver's Club brought a few of their vehicles to the Men's Shed today. I have added a few photos to the Media section.
 

spacesailor

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Stay with it !,
The price of fossil fuel is going "up up & away" so your leaf will blow us oldies to away too.
I have tried the older battery leaf blower's & have Not had good results, same with the lawn mower.
I gave the E-mower to my grand-daughter & she didn't like it either, swapped it for a petrol mower.LoL
I don't commute, so my motoring is Pleasure all the way, fuel pump to next fuel pump, just the fuel-price changes.
spacesailor
 

red750

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My regular trips are around 10km return, with one monthly trip of 60km return, so range is not a concern. Once or twice a year we may travel to the country, a round trip of about 260km,and there is a recharge station at the destination. Alternatively we could hire an ICE car.

Here is a map of recharge stations in Australia. The orange ones are high power fast charge centres.

charging locations.JPG

Three shopping malls, five other smaller shopping strips, doctor, 3 private hospitals, railway stations, three cinema complexes, and the Men's Shed, all in a five kilometre radius of home.
 
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The UK also has a dense set of recharge points of varying types; but even fast charging takes a min of 20 minutes for most EVs... which means if I buy a car with a claimed range of say 200m, but it only really gives me 120m, then I have to tack on a bit of time to go for my 150m trip.

Agreed, for the urban school and shopping run, which is most people's driving, it is no game changer... except for that time when you one runs a low charge as they forgot to hook up the power overnight..
 

octave

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The UK also has a dense set of recharge points of varying types; but even fast charging takes a min of 20 minutes for most EVs... which means if I buy a car with a claimed range of say 200m, but it only really gives me 120m, then I have to tack on a bit of time to go for my 150m trip.

Agreed, for the urban school and shopping run, which is most people's driving, it is no game changer... except for that time when you one runs a low charge as they forgot to hook up the power overnight..

News flash---

My petrol head son just bought a BMW I3 REx (it has a 2 cylinder motor range extender.) Like this one

 
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spacesailor

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"Here is a map of recharge stations in Australia. The orange ones are high power fast charge centres."
Just what I thought, Not one on the Buchanan hwy W A, or the Plenty hwy NT. LoL
Picked up a good few Ruby's at Gem Tree, NT, & the old Delica had it's step shaken loose In W A.
But enjoyed both roads, & didn't whinge about fuel prices either.
spacesailor
 
News flash---

My petrol head son just bought a BMW I3 REx (it has a 2 cylinder motor range extender.) Like this one
I took a look at them - but as I want to spend more on flying and less on driving, they sort of exceed the price spec for me... Cheapest on one of the better new car discount sites is £34k.. A leaf is £24k and with its electric engine, pretty zippy, if boring to look at.
 

facthunter

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People run out of fossil fuel too. Electric will come, especially for the short trips with a solar panel on the car to use the hot sun in the car park. Electric charged from a coal based Grid only shifts the pollution to where the power station is.. Cost of the grid will always be prohibitive in a big sparsely settled country like Australia, and supply be unreliable. Nev
 

Old Koreelah

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Another advantage of shifting to an EV is the opportunity to integrate it's battery into your home's power system.
The car is usually sitting idle during the night when you domestic power use peaks.
 

facthunter

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I'm not aware of the general usage patterns but I thought the cheapest power was the excess after 2200 where you programme your dishwasher and clothes washers to run.. Coal is not a flexible provider especially the super critical ones. that only run efficiently over a small range . The big demand is late afternoon on hot days in summer..The "System" needs flexibility. Excess power has to go somewhere if it's being produced so storage of some kind will be essential.. Excess power will almost be paid to get rid of so investment in storage will be a profitable exercise. Nev
 

kgwilson

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The cheapest power, Off Peak is between 2200 & 0700 Monday to Friday and all day Saturday & Sunday. If you have solar panels you run the dishwasher & washing machine during sunlight hours as well as anything else you can to take advantage of free electricity.
 
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