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Israel Folau - latest example of how to fleece the gullible

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Latest is that Rugby Australia have revealed that Folau had been warned before that his tweets were unacceptable. He had agreed that it wouldn't happen again, but it did. He could not help himself if God talked to him.

Just goes to show how stupid religious zealots can be. He had signed a new agreement with big increases in pay and still couldn't shut up.

I do tend to agree with some of his sentiments in that I think the Alphabet soup group seem to be the only ones who can be upset by what others say. We have to bend over backwards to appease them. At least bending over backwards is safer than the other way.

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You have a point, Yenn. After enduring eons of discrimination and worse, people who are a bit different now enjoy some freedoms. Public sentiment has finally swung their way.

However, like a pendulum, it can swing back as quickly if they alienate the great middle ground who currently support them.

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I just watched season 3 of Glitch. On ABC. It had all the compulsory ABC stuff including passionate males kissing, in bed etc. I try to be tolerant but this is deliberate provocation. There should be warnings at the start and I would not watch. By the way, it is a crap show but filmed in our town so I wanted to see it.

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I am awaiting November to watch, "Fat Pizza" (spelling ) as it was shot in my road.

Up & down passed my house using a drone camera as well as the other equipment. (like Hoon cars).

I don't think I would bother other-wise

spacesailor

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What was so offensive?

 

It was a small scene and provides context. The character was historically killed for been gay. This is context.

 

We have always had gay people.

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 Yes It's nothing new at all and still widespread in Countries that have severe penalties for such acts. . Penalties for people who do things you don't like  have severe possible ramifications for concepts of basic freedoms . Some thing YOU do may be unacceptable to some. Not believing in a god is punishable by death in some places.  Does that strike you as concerning? . Blokes kissing passionately doesn't do much for me, but I'm not going to jump up and down about it. A more tolerant position will make a more inclusive and fair society and one I feel more comfortable in.   Nev

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I don't know why they consider it unnatural. Homosexuality is not limited to humans, plenty of animals have been shown to be attracted to the same sex.

Strangely enough, I don't think any animals believe in god, so maybe that's unnatural.

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Can we agree that religion has lot's of problems with SEX so their individual views are not likely to contribute much.  ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God  and He (&she) who is without sin cast the first stone.. Selective quoting out of context is not any answer. It just re enforces bigotry and self righteousness,a couple of things we could well do with less of.  In the early days of Christianity they were persecuted, Now THEY are wishing to do the persecuting. If the ACL get to run the show it will be something like IRAN, or worse. It's not better just because your brand of bigotry and Diety is used. The crusaders weren't that nice. Nev

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Perhaps I'm alone in this but I just cannot imagine anything worse than a totalitarian religious state. Nev

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A totalitarian Government, were every thing is made compulsory !.

If it wasn't compulsory There would be few trudging to the voting booth, after all, those pollies promises mean nothing.

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Don't put them all in the one basket. There ARE some good ones and they should be encouraged The more that vote the better the outcome and the less it can be manipulated by set ups like Cambridge Analytica . To try to prevent someone voting here is a crime. The original purpose of making voting compulsory was to stop some, like your boss, making it difficult for you to exercise your RIGHT to vote.. Realise how lucky you are compared to MOST of the world and VOTE more CAREFULLY. (While you still CAN). Nev

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Too plurry right, Nev! Many people resent being compelled to vote. There have been proposals to make voting voluntary, most recently by Tony Abbott. His odious track record suggests that, had he remained PM, he would have taken us down the path towards religious dictatorship. Luckily, our kids are fairly safe from that.

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Some IDIOTS want a dictatorship, ( they think it's a voting republic).

Just look at history: France, number of revolts, can't count them !.

Fiji, called in the army.

England, Armed revolution, but only the one. 

spacesailor 

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 I think the French take Government seriously. They are generally more informed about issues than most are.  They also guard their own personal freedoms .. Nev

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Fijis' problem was caused by allowing vast numbers of people into the country, mainly Indian and giving them the vote. They suddenly woke up to the fact that they were disenfranchised in their own country.

Indonesia is the worlds largest Muslim state and the religious fanatics want to make extramarital sex illegal. That seems to be starting to wake up the younger, more sectarian part of the population and it is a democracy. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Indonesia is having a second East Timor type of problem. For many years it has been impossible for journalists to get into West Papua and no doubt they have been treating the indigenous population badly, while Western governments cared little.

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